Producer rejects blame for loss of classic sound – and says he just told band to listen more to Ulrich
Producer Bob Rock knows many Metallica fans blame him for moving them away from their classic sound by producing 1991′s Black Album – but he says it was nothing to do with him.
Instead he insists the band had already made a decision to abandon the thrash musical ethic, and he just helped them go where they wanted to go by persuading them to follow drummer Lars Ulrich more than they’d done in the past.
And he admits the experience was so fraught he told the band he’d never work with them again – and he believed the feeling was mutual.
Marking the twentieth anniversary of Metallica’s self-titled release, known as the Black Album by most fans, Rock tells MusicRadar: “They had broken through to one level but they still weren’t on mainstream radio. When they came to me they were ready to make that leap to the big, big leagues.
“A lot of people think I changed the band. I didn’t: in their heads they were already changed when I met them.”
Rock says he band wanted to “groove more” and were using AC/DC’s Back in Black album as a yardstick. The producer thought he could assist.
“I noticed Lars played to James Hetfield’s guitar, much the way that Keith Moon played to Pete Townshend. That’s fine for some bands, but no every one.
“I told Lars that in order to get that Back in Black feel, he had to be the focal point musically. So on certain songs the band played to Lars – they followed him. It made a real difference.”
Rock says Hetfield experience a challenging time as he struggled to make his lyrics more realistic compared to previous outings. “James wanted to go deeper,” the producer explains. “He wanted his songs to really matter.
“We talked about the great songwriters, like Dylan and Lennon and Marley, and I think he saw he could write for himself – but still touch other people. He had a tremendous breakthrough as a writer.”
Rock refused to let Metallica record in sections, and instead made them play live, telling them: “You’re a great live band and that vibe is crucial to this album.” He asked Jason Newsted to “play more like a bass player and less like a guitarist” and the result, he says, gave classic track Enter Sandman a “killer groove.”
But the label didn’t want to release it as a single: “At first they thought it could be the first single, then they realised the song was about crib death. That didn’t go over too well.
“I told James: ‘What you have is great but it can be better. Does it have to be so literal?’ Not that I was thinking about the single – I just wanted the song to be better.
“He rewrote some lyrics and it was all there: the first single.”
During recording sessions Rock taught Metallica about the drop-D tuning, which allows guitars to play a full tone lower than their standard setting, offering deeper and darker tonality. The producer says: “I realised every song was in the key of E. They said, ‘Well, isn’t that the lowest key?’
“So I told them that on Motley Crue’s Dr Feelgood, which I’d produced and Metallica loved, the band had tuned down to D. Metallica then tunes down to D, and that’s when the riff on Sad But True became huge.”
Rock wound up working with Metallica on five more albums.










Hmmm…..so Bob Rock didn’t change their sound.
He just:
1)ToldLars to be the focal point musically, and the band followed him, instead of Hetfield.
2) Helped James Hetfield make his lyrics more realistic than in previous records, and helped convince him to change some lyrics on “Enter Sandman” so it could be the first single.
3)Had the band play ‘Live’ instead of in sections and asked Jason Newsted to “play more like a bass player and less like a guitarist.”
4)Taught the band drop-D tuning, instead of playing in E, which changed their sound
But he didn’t change their sound. WTF?!!!!!
Metallica were not small children when they recorded the Black Album. Rock should not have to take the fall for the change in their sound from those who wish Metallica could always sound like they did on “Ride the Lightning.” The dropped-D on “Sad but True” sounds booming and huge. Kirk’s wah pedal solos influenced countless guitarists in the 90′s. On a good stereo system the album is still, after 20 years, one of the best sounding albums ever. The problem is not Black Album so much as why Load and Re-load were both loads of &%*$#!!!
Their sound changed because of Hetfield’s sobriety. If you are trying to tell me that Mr. Rock schooled THE Kirk Hammett on the idea of dropping D ..PLEASE! My opinion is that, AFTER the monetary success of the black album, it was all over. Money wins!
BOB ROCK IS DEAD …LONG LIVE DEATH MAGNETIC ( PROOF HOW GOOD THEY ARE WITHOUT BOB ROCK )
LARS IS JUST THE DRUMMER JUST TRY TO GET RID OF JAMES AND I’LL NEVER BUY ANOTHER ALBUM OR SEE ANOTHER SHOW. ST ANGER IS A GREAT EX OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN LARS TRYS TO BE THE BOSS